Hi Darren (and Brainstormers) .
I know you intend to change the first page that users now land on when they hit "Tribe Chat" ( melbourne.tribe.net/template...eChat.vm) - but it is certainly clear that lots of folks think you MUST download a program in order to use tribe chat..
I assume that the two programs simply have more whistles and bells - but I was able to use Tribe Chat without downloading anything - and I think that needs to be more clearly stated on the page that my browser jumps to when I hit the tribe chat button
People seem to miss "For best results when not using our chat applet, use " means that the applet does not have to be downloaded..
Some information on troubleshooting - especially enabling Java and disabling popup blockers would be also good..
Is there anyone here who could write a troubleshooting statement with advice to users ??? This would save Darren having to do it..
I know you intend to change the first page that users now land on when they hit "Tribe Chat" ( melbourne.tribe.net/template...eChat.vm) - but it is certainly clear that lots of folks think you MUST download a program in order to use tribe chat..
I assume that the two programs simply have more whistles and bells - but I was able to use Tribe Chat without downloading anything - and I think that needs to be more clearly stated on the page that my browser jumps to when I hit the tribe chat button
People seem to miss "For best results when not using our chat applet, use " means that the applet does not have to be downloaded..
Some information on troubleshooting - especially enabling Java and disabling popup blockers would be also good..
Is there anyone here who could write a troubleshooting statement with advice to users ??? This would save Darren having to do it..
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 12:02 PMI got it working but a friend of mine, using a Mac Powerbook, couldn't! I also noticed that none/zero of my friends were available for a chat!!
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 8:57 PMThe problems I've been seeing reported fall mostly into three classes:
1) Popup blocking prevents one or more of the windows from opening; this is most common for people using IE with multiple 3rd party products like Norton A/V and Google Toolbar. You need to make sure anything from the wildcard domain *.tribe.net is not blocked, since you need to get popups from both your home Tribe server (e.g. minneapolis.tribe.net) and the chat server (maitai.tribe.net).
2) Can't see your friends list - assuming you've logged in successfully this is like the dot or star; it's always been flakey about displaying online status correctly. Remind your friends that they need to log into chat as well as Tribe to be available here. I often send a PM to someone to see if they're available.
3) The chat client crashes - I've heard this happen with the web client from a number of people; I use standalone clients (Adium and iChat) and have not had an issue. The web based client I use through the iPod touch cannot connect to tribechat even though it can connect to other jabber servers (like GoogleTalk). Not sure what's going on with that.
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 2:09 AMHmm.
What with the success and ease of use of Skype, AIM, and Yahoo IM and countless other chat programs, I really can't for the life of me understand why *anyone* wanted a tribe chat client in the first place. -
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 2:13 AMI dont use any other chat program - tribe is my first jump into the pool.. and I like it !
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 2:42 AMBrian,
I agree mate I think the time could have been better invested in other stuff such as more profile templates (as well as getting the current ones to display correctly), debugging, promoting the site (the mass email was good though and free) and adding a music module!! LOL I'm haven't given up hope on that score.
Hmm how about a slide show module where you can select pix from your gallery (or possible anyone's gallery)? I like the simplicity of the tribe profile styles but I really think people should be able to edit their own CSS, I mean the hot pink text is far to light and is pretty unreadable. Be nice if someone could help tribe out and bang together a good twenty or thirty simple, yet diverse, styles.
The key word, if you look at MyWank etc, is individuality as people want to express their uniqueness. Tribe missed the boat on that one which is rather ironic as their module/style system was pretty cutting edge when they introduced it a couple of years back. It's a shame tribe didn't have enough money/time/inclination to follow through and grow their module/style system.
Bottom line is that Darren would do better to spend time on the “moduality” and “styllity” as this is what people want. I also think the idea of pushing Premium Member with the idea of more gizmo's might be bad marketing. I think people should be encouraged to become a premium member because they are aware that tribe is unique and small and that by paying they help tribe to survive and possibly grow. Yes tribe is a pearl and a gem and if all the regular users signed up for Premium hopefully this would sustain tribe. Time for a tribe ad campaign to push the premium members ship. Simply a banner linking to a page say please hekp us be here for you in the future by paying a few dollars.
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 3:05 AMPatrick << also think the idea of pushing Premium Member with the idea of more gizmo's might be bad marketing. .......I think people should be encouraged to become a premium member because they are aware that tribe is unique and small and that by paying they help tribe to survive and possibly grow. Yes tribe is a pearl and a gem and if all the regular users signed up for Premium hopefully this would sustain tribe. Time for a tribe ad campaign to push the premium members ship. >>
I have had the same thought and many people have said stability and insuring the continuation of tribe is where their priorities lie rather than new features.. but balanced against that is the "WIIFM" principle - the "What's in it for me" proposition being access to extra features being the "advantage" or "benefit" of Premium membership
I guess the Critical Point here is if you are more likely to engage and convert "consumers" who assume tribe will be around and who want to obtain special benefits for themselves or view purchasers of Premium memberships as "Community Members" with a strong and emotionally invested interest in tribe and who are willing to make a small financial contribution to seeing the site continue and stable.. I think a mixed strategy might be best - but that also creates the problem of diluting the marketing message. I think the focus should be "make sure tribe survives and is stable" with a secondary focus on extras for premium subscribers and any promotional & communication material to members written to that end..
But the thread is about creating clearer and more comprehensive instructions for people to access chat.. does someone have the knowledge and skill to write it ?
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 4:11 AMHow to unblock popups:
www.qantas.com.au/needhelp/...out/popups
Gotta love the source!
This does not cover any of the third party security crapware that most Windows users run, often without their knowledge. Also, it's a little out of date. But it did take all of about 10 seconds to find by searching for 'enabling popups' on Google.
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 4:19 AMALL HAIL CRAIG !!!! -
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 4:33 AMPffft.
The other little fact I discovered is that the recently released Safari 3.1 works fine. You just have to unblock popups and click OK on the little dialog that says it won't work, and then it just works. There is a Windows version of Safari available for free download from Apple. Just sayin'.
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 12:09 PMI really think it's about time to delete the Brainstorm tribe, since I ought to be working on keeping the status quo. I don't see any point in it honestly. -
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 12:19 PMThere's a good chance that if you delete this tribe I will delete my account/membership! No reason to delete this tribe. All sounds rather odd to me. And all this comes a couple of months before I was going to go gold.
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 11:44 PMWhy don't you choose a different moderator, Bloke, for instance? Then you could just ignore it. We could brainstorm amongst ourselves, though it wouldn't be really a brainstorming for Tribe then. I see your point Darren. But we've become accustomed to this tribe. Bloke is good at coming up with name variations, if you appoint him moderator so you can set yourself loose from this, Bloke will you change the name to something similar but appropriately different at the same time? -
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Fri, March 28, 2008 - 12:30 AMOr go ahead and delete it. I guess we're not brainstorming anymore anyhow. -
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Mon, April 7, 2008 - 10:38 AMfor those who use the chat function, this might be useful as it supports Jabber
www.download.com/Digsby/30...22157.html
~V~
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Re: Tribe Chat Page (Help for Darren & users ?)
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 2:43 AMPort 80. :)
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