Import Contacts and Find Out Who Is Already a Member

topic posted Sat, December 2, 2006 - 6:42 PM by  B.K.
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Many social networks enable users to import their contact list, see who on their contact list is already a member and then decide whether to send invites to those who are not.

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  • It seems as if it would be tricky on the matching algorithm. I mean, sure, the contact item, or the v-card might read "Bush, George W.", but how would a piece of software (or a piece of wetware) know that this is the same person who logs into tribe as "NAMBLA Enthusiast"? That seems really problematic.
    • I assume it would match based on e-mail address not tribe name.
      • Mmmmm, yeah, the problem with that is that e-mail address is part of the login information.

        Right now, you don't know either piece of my login information. This particular suggestion for the algorithm would basically be a login phishing machine.
        • I think you can search for people by their e-mail now...or you could at one point. it is/was just not attached to the importing thing.
          • Yeah you can search for people by their email or like you said you could at one point. Still lots of people (like me) use one email for communicating with friends and a totally seperate email for their tribe account so searching with the email address wouldn't work if a friend was looking for me.
            • It seems like it would come down to searching for IP addresses. Doing that might have the potential to open up a whole 'nother can of worms with wide ranging and unpredictable effects. In addition to the algorithm (?), there'd be the political, social and promotional effects (or headaches) that would have to be dealt with.

              As a business guy, I just wouldn't want to deal with it.

              As another solution, maybe it's better to just make a blog that's a link saying you're going to be over here or there and provide a link to your tribe profile. The contacts you had on the old site would check in with you and the people you already know on Tribe would be happy to see you.
              • "It seems like it would come down to searching for IP addresses."

                Ooooh, I don't feel like sharing my IP address with anyone not intimately tied to tribe server access (my presumption is that they are at least somewhat secure). Might as well hand you my house keys.

                Besides, I don't usually put my IP in my v-card. ;) For the same reason.

                e-mail would not be bad, except that it's part of the login.

                "maybe it's better to just make a blog that's a link saying you're going to be over here or there and provide a link to your tribe profile."

                I tend to agree with that. 8) I think it's a solution that provides the ultimate flexibility to all involved.
            • "...so searching with the email address wouldn't work if a friend was looking for me."

              Yep. If it works, you now have half their login info. If it don't, it's useless.
              • Every one of the social networking sights I have used lets you search by email address and it is always half the login information. who cares?


                I'm not storing my bank accounts here.
                • "who cares?"

                  In a lot of systems, screen "name" (such as "Edward Martin III" or "Edubya") are independent of login. Usually this is extra security. A person needs to know TWO pieces of information in order to have your login. This is better security. Better security is generally good and most folks understand that two-part security is a good thing. Me, personally, I like it that way, too.

                  Passwords are interesting things. I've often been amazed at how common many passwords are. For example, "secret". I know, everybody with a half-a-brain ought to know better than to use "secret" as a password, but (shrug), people do stupid things. People also use "god" or "jesus" or "gandalf" as passwords. Password-cracking programs know this. Hell, if the word can be found in a common spellchecker, it AUTOMATICALLY sucks as a password, because password cracking programs check basic dictionary words as well. They also check <KnownWord><SingleDigit> combinations, such as "Cracker9" or "2hot4love".

                  As far as I can tell from tribe.net's system, passwords don't have to be unique (I have not verified this). The only unique identifier is your login. Which just so happens to be an e-mail address. So, a method of phishing for e-mail (which is a bit obnoxious) becomes a method of phishing for login information (which is more serious).

                  You, personally, might not value it, but that makes it no less valuable to anyone else, and in the case of security, it's usually wisest to err on the side of MORE security (where convenience isn't compromised).

                  "I'm not storing my bank accounts here."

                  Then you certainly won't mind posting your login... ;)
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    I'm not so worried that someone would have half of my log in(maybe I should be). I'm more worried that someone who was stalking me elsewhere online(or not online) could find me here, not even by searching through tons of profiles or looking around but nice and easy. Well *I'm* not to worried about that at the moment but if I was worried that would be what I was worried about. Mostly because most people I think have no idea that they are searchable on tribe that way.

                    The more I think about it the more I'm curious what the usefulness of being able to search for people by e-mail is. I mean if you have their e-mail why can't you e-mail them and ask them if they are on tribe?

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