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Searching the topics in this Tribe I see that there have been suggestions in the past concerning the need/desire for a messaging/chat-type function. I would love to be able to message my friends w/o going out to Yahoo or AIM. I see this as a major hole in what otherwise is a wonderful service. Surely it is not that huge a technical issue. Gmail and most dating sites have a chat function.
Hope that you will give this suggestion serious consideration,
John
Hope that you will give this suggestion serious consideration,
John
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 2:31 PMI agree with this suggestion. I suggest you look at a design similar to that used by OKCupid at:
www.okcupid.com
Key advantages of it is it is enabled for voice and video, and enables Mac users as well as PC users to use text, video, and voice in in, which is usual. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 2:37 PMHell, I'd be happy with text-only, if you cold set up conferences such that several tribers can chat in one UI. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 8:03 AMI totally agree with you there there Edward... a text based chat room would be wonderful and give TRIBE.NET the chance to build more community friendships..
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 3:03 PMThere are fields in which users can post their Yahoo and AIM identities, and people can always send a personal message asking for contact information.
If you go to hearmeout.tribe.net, you'll find the tribe based around the chat implementation we still have, based on Jabber. It allows you to chat with your first-degree friends. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 6:11 PMWhile the options you mention work, the point I think myself and the other two respondents are making is that it would be nice to be able to stay in Tribe to do these things.
The minute I open Yahoo Messenger, I'm flooded with IMS from friends and family seemly lurking just to ambush me - makes it very difficult to have a conversation with the one person you are trying to connect with.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 6:31 PMIt requires time and money to write such a piece of software.
Tribe has neither right now
Use what is available
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 6:42 PMThere is no reason to get all shirty!
That is not a very nice attitude to take - Free Association, Live Journal, and Vox are available too - do you also suggest that we all avail ourselves of those services instead of Tribe? NO EYEBALLS - NO REVENUE!
No one said it was the most important thing to spend money on right this moment - just a nice feature to have as part of Tribe.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 6:58 PMExcuse me?
maybe you could familiarize yourself with some facts before your panties get in a bunch.
That big letter from Tribe on the side of your screen explains a fair amount, including the total number of employees - that would be 8, including Mark.
And I am not a software engineer, but I'm pretty sure that it takes time, money and resources to develop a functional, relevant piece of software.
Even a loose reading of several threads in this tribe might provide some clues as to the types of things that are possible and relevant and others that while nice, are not feasible at this time or ever.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Mon, January 22, 2007 - 6:59 PMhe's just posting a suggestion. He's not suggesting that it be done right away. We all know that Tribe is understaffed and underfunded right now - but that doesn't stop anyone from posting suggestions
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 12:59 AM
Hey, Jenni.
So, I dig around that tribe, and I am wondering why you guys chose to not push that feature forward. That seemingly would be such a successful feature that I am surprised that it has not gone anywhere forward.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 11:39 AMWell, I still use Tribe Chat, but only with the 3 other people on my friends list who do. And I think that's the main problem: it was never used widely enough to encourage others to sign up.
Beyond that, the most troubling question to me was: do we allow users to IM those who aren't their friend? There are many users on Tribe with whom I frequently correspond, but I'm not friends with them. I was always afraid that if Tribe Chat was adopted across the site, we would then have to figure out a system to allow users to control who could contact them, or at least implement some sort of ignore feature.
If we were going to continue a conversation on this that I dropped several months (or maybe even a year ago), my questions would be:
* is it ok to let anyone send TribeChats to anyone else on Tribe
* if we did so, would we need to have the current "ignore user" functionality expand to TribeChat?
And let me explain right now that if we were spend more time on this, I don't see us creating any new way for users to "link", or create a buddy list outside of our existing friendship model. TribeChat will forever be friends-only, OR tribe-wide. One or the other, maybe with ignore functionality. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 12:59 PMWould it work to have options?
[ ] I can be contacted by anyone on tribe
[ ] I can only be contacted by my friends
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 4:43 PMI obviously didn't do a good enough job explaining in my above post that we *can't* have options like these, and *if* we implemented it, it would probably have to be ONE OR THE OTHER.
It has to do with the way that the chat server is decoupled from our application, hence my concern that we wouldn't be able to please everyone. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 5:06 PMGotcha.
If I had my preference, I'd pick friends-only.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, January 30, 2007 - 3:45 PMTo me, the main problem with tribe chat is that it's out of band; it requires a user to run a seperate client. It's not something that's automatically invoked on login, and contained within the webpage.
For IM to be adopted, it needs to be pretty much painless to get it going, or you'll never get the critical mass to attract people. It's far easier at this point to just exchange MSN/Yahoo/etc IM addresses then to configure & manage Yet Another IM environment.
It would be very cool if a java app running within a block on tribe could serve as an IM conversation manager. I sketched up a rough design once for one, once, a while back, but I don't have quite all the things I need to implement it correctly. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 7:57 AMHey if www.goowey.com could do all the IM networks over a simple web browser I'm sure that TRIBE can come up with something similar.. BUT, the real kicker is similar to the old "Chat Room" concept of the days back to CompuServ which "TRIBE" builds themselves based on topic...
Real simple topics like Pagan, Christian, Gay Male, Fire Spinners, etc... not crap like "Fire Spinners who only do Poi", and "Fire Spinners who only use Wands" and they also have a form you can fill out to request a new category which they collect and if there's enough of a show of hands then it's added.
IM stuff is nice, but this one on one gets kinda old after a while. Tribe is a "Community" and it should focus on functioning that way not sending pretty private messages back and forth to only one person. No, that's more used by those seeking sex, or covert behavior that they don't want their peers to know about.
Maybe it's time more of the SysOps get a clue and review the days of BBS'ing when you had a chat room where you could meet and discus public stuff.. and you had a private message (aka email) system where you could brag about your penis size to the person of your dreams.. You don't IM the person of your dreams... if they're interested in meeing you then it will be aranged over simple private email messages. or since this is the age of Cell Phones.. There's nothing stopping TRIBE from having a way to SMS your phone instead of having to screw with IM clients.
As for the chat rooms.. This is what builds community and allows peple to educate one another on things and experiences they may never get to experience otherwise.
And with everything, there comes a collection of "Assholes" too.. Child Molestors looking for a thrill... Smash and Grab artists looking for a free meal ticket... But, and I say But.... this will continue to exist till the end of time... and we can function as a community/tribe of caring human beings... or we can function as a collection/tribe of hateful, selfish, judgemental, ignorant idiots with no lives and no caring for others around them but only their own personal gratification..
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 8:56 AMHi,
I have a "two cent" suggestion that will not only solve any messaging issues, but also add some other features... Why don't you just subscribe to Skype.. a free text messaging and phone service... Here is the link... www.skype.com/download/
With Skype, you can also do conference chats and conference phone calls to any other skype buddy.. That way.. if you see your friend on line in tribe and you want to chat.. just activate your skype and that leaves you free to do as you please... and there is also no pressure on Tribe to even try to provide a duplicate service... It's a win-win situation... and it's one that I already use. :)
John
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 9:07 AMThanks for the suggestion John but I think people are trying to get away from the idea of using a separate program and try to get something that words on Tribe. Like with Faceparty.com, if anyone has ever used that, you have the option to open a buddy list to the right of your screen and IM people as and when you want. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 10:01 AMSkype does all that.
It also lets you know who's on line, when you are being paged.. or you can leave a message if they are off line.
You can text message, and talk text or (voice) to another person at the same time, or set up a conference.
You can share pictures and files. I don't know what it doesn't do as I haven't explored all its features..
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 10:34 AMYes John I know what Skype is and use it myself, the point being that many social networking sites have an instant message or chat system WITHIN the site and not on a separate program. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 10:55 AMJohn
Hi Sarah,
We're on two different pages... You want Tribe to provide what you want.. and it doesn't look like it's anything that Tribe is financially or otherwise, prepared to do, so I wouldn't recommend that you hold your breath.
I was merely suggesting an alternative outside service to the group (in general) of something that is available for those that would like that service... NOW, and not at some time in the future.
That's it.. that's all... end of my two cents. Take it or leave it. :)
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Wed, July 25, 2007 - 9:15 AMHi.
Just to drop my two cents in too: I understand that Tribe seems to be dramatically understaffed and underfunded, but personally I think it is the best social networking service available, so thanx employees muchlyish for the hard work. I've had more positive interactions, made more actual friends, and gotten exceptional advice and insight here, where on other servers like myspace or facebook, there's alot more bs to wade thru' constantly and they are so media heavy by default that alot of times I can't even load my inbox.
My point being that the more (over time, as time and resources allow) non-confusing options tribe has, within some degree of preudo-concensus from the community therein, the better it will become.
My very favorite internal chat program right now is the one inside gmail. One may invite people to join, and evryone must (if not already in e-mail contact, the parallell of a friends list here maybe?) ASK if they may have permission to chat with You, and the pop-out option in the corner of the screen allows You to still be dealing with e-mail and whatnot without having the chat box jump to the front everytime someone wants to say hi.
I'm not especially software technical minded anymore these days, but I wonder if Tribe might consider eventually modelling an internal chat option after G-mail. Also perhaps having chat rooms that are only attached to individual users profiles and individual tribes. hence the subject matter and people relating in the chat environment will have commonalities and one won't be so easily able to create inane chat rooms for an evening to get "pick-ups" or whatever. Any feedback?
An idea.
Ahnika
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Sat, August 4, 2007 - 9:12 AMif tribe allowed people to embed their kyte.tv channel, you could share pix, vids, etc. and also chat with text, webcam, and voice.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, September 25, 2007 - 9:56 AMHi, I found this discussion when trying to figure out if you could chat with Tribe members - I have to say I was surprised at the aggressiveness of some comments. I've come back because this is, as I understand it, a place to brainstorm and make suggestions. To that end, all ideas are good ideas and no critiquing.
So, I'd also like to put in my vote to the tribe staff encouraging a chat function. It's frustrating to see that someone is online, but you can only send them a message (and not have instant interaction). There are plenty of sites that have this function that could be used as a model for availability settings, who can/can't contact you, etc.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 9:21 PMI found this discussion by searching the topics to see if this particular topic had already be risen. I would LOVE to be able to meet new people by seeing them online, and being able to just pop in with an invite to chat. I agree, I also love the Google chat format. Understanding that the Tribe folks have limited funds, and limited personnel, I suggest that they could offer this as an incentive at at least the silver star level. I want to pay per month, but am uinemployed, and unfortunately can't afford anything but library books and the internet, so not an option for me now. I would probably be more swayed to pay the extra money if it became more of a way for Tribsters to connect, and interact. I would have to see it in an entertainment "Have to have." It would be win-win IMO. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 9:25 PMSorry, Jenni, I just re-read your posts, that does pose a few issues, hmmm....well that stinks. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Tue, April 21, 2009 - 9:33 PMI'm all for chat if it means hot chicks.
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 3:17 AMTribe has rolled out chat functionality at least twice that I'm aware of-- once four or five years ago (wow, has it really been that long?) and once maybe two years ago. The second round was originally only for premium members, and then got opened up to everyone.
I'm pretty sure the problem is lack of critical mass. There just aren't that many people who would use it. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 4:25 AMI would use to chat up on some cool girls that want to party with the bbq und the beer. I have a hyper dimention transponder vectoring sizmonic combobulator. Will that work ok with the internets for the hot girl chats?
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Wed, April 22, 2009 - 8:49 PMinstant messaging has a porno quality to it.
The more tribe.net can porno up itself, the better it's chances of turning a profit. -
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Re: Instant Messaging/Chat Function
Thu, April 23, 2009 - 4:33 AMI have to go lock myself in the room for some Private Time when I'm browsing tribe!
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