Deleting the Brainstorm tribe

well, I agree that this tribe is really not doing what's intended, and that's got to be incredibly frustrating. It does hurt to be lumped in with the "acting up" crowd, as I'm pretty careful not to do that. It also seems unfair to offer paying and non-paying memberships, but the non-paying members are not allowed to have a voice about anything.

On the other hand, it's hard for a rational voice to be heard out of this tribe, surrounded by flames, mud, and general asshattery. And it's not like another tribe could be stared, because the jerkwads would just go over there and make a mess too.

So I guess I support you either way - I hate to see this tribe go, but I also hate seeing what it's become.

Darren, I sure understand your frustration and thinking. However, you're essentially telling the largest block of users, the ones that haven't yet converted to premium membership and drive traffic, to go take a flying leap because you can't be bothered with moderating a very useful tribe. Especially during tough economic times. Some, like myself, just can't afford it....just at this moment. And I'm not alone. You're willing to tell folks that are at the tipping point of conversion to, essentially, go fuck themselves? Sounds like a really bad setup, don't it?

Besides, there's something to be said that the current conditions of this tribe are a direct result of tribe's inability to manage itself. Everyone is frustrated and it comes out here. But now you're saying it's too frustrating? That's like a man saying he's bored with his wife's attitude problems even though he drinks, sleeps around and ignores the kids.

And when the Gold Star Tribe gets frustrated with tribe's typically slow or seemingly unresponsive and long development process - no personal offense intended, just voicing the tone around this domain - will you bore of them and delete that tribe too? Care for users much? That's the attitude that comes across from this grand scheme of deleting brainstorm. Not exactly inspiring confidence and violates the credo of net business...don't be a dick. Deleting brainstorm because you're personally bored with it is a dickish move.

Even less inspiring, how come we have to point these very obvious things out? It's enough to make some wonder, "What kind of unscrupulous cons run this place and why should they be given our credit card info?"

Please don't get me wrong. I totally appreciate your position, frustrations and understand you don't have the time to moderate and sift through the criticisms and that it's really, REALLY depressing at times. Like you, I'd rather have you doing development stuff and being all happy with your job. Then why not have someone else moderate Brainstorm?

I gotta tell ya, you're going to lose a lot more users if you delete this tribe. Lots more. Mass-exodus more. As in losing bankable potential income to develop tribe even more. Them and the 10-300 people each of them are friends with. That's a lot of alienation for such little output of simple moderation of a tribe. And product viability is directly proportional to the breadth of user base and marketable reputation.

I hope you reconsider.

Or maybe someone with an actual connection to someone with an actual connection to tribe and how it functions?

As frustrating as this tribe can be, I think that it is beneficial on certain levels. I can totally see why you would want to flush this tribe, Darren, but I can't see how that action would be beneficial to tribe as a whole.

Perhaps we could try a different moderator that has more time to deal with the BS quotient, also someone that could alert you to actual brainstorms that might be worth considering. This might allow you a wee bit more time to deal with keeping the site up and running, which would be the most beneficial option for us all.

: D

oh, and I mean the fallen angel, satan, not the guy who constantly gets into trouble on tribe. Although, Mystic does do that, too.