i'm talking about to the tribe main page..by the way

Propaganda? They're both fairly large (+500 members) and have frequent posts,so that's probably why they make the list. It's not something we're controlling, but it's not a bad thing for people to be able to easily find them either, I think...

When the most popular tribes are devoted to the topic of problems people are having with tribe ... tell me again how that is a good thing?

It's an odd thing about IT culture, that IT people think it is really cool that their products require users to devote massive amounts of time to getting the software to work and that users have to resort to coming up with their own databases, chatrooms, bulliten boards and what not to discuss the problems because they can't get help from customer service and the products don't work.

Tribe.net has been talking about stablizing the site for years. I think Apollo Eleven took less time than what tribe.net has spent trying to stablize the site, and Apollo Eleven sent man to the moon. And here, all we are trying to do is get a social networking site to operate in a stable manner - something that was acheived years ago by other sites. This isn't rocket science, is it?

Tribe.net is like China in the 1970's. The USA had already been the moon, the USSR had a competing space program, but China was still trying to just get a rocket to fly. But China had great potential and would some day have a space program. I am looking forward to the Great Leap in tribe.net's next 30 years. By 2040, I expect tribe.net will have acheived a very competitive system.