Levels of Friendship

topic posted Wed, February 4, 2009 - 7:00 AM by  Diana
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(using my blog) I've started thinking about reducing the number of friends on my list.
people.tribe.net/littlered...04817d94fd

But that also got me thinking about friends on here.
I already tried to separate the Girls from the Guys and the Redheads from the Rest. That I try to maintain by hand.
I seem to think that if I also had Icons (or colored dots) to show more detail.

Have we discussed (recently) creating Levels of Friendship?

Taking a cue from lifeofj.wordpress.com/2007/12...endship/
I see 4 Levels of Friends:
Level A - Acquaintances
Level B - Buddies
Level C - Consultants
Level D - Dearest

Level A are people that see me on here, maybe want to follow my posts, but never really correspond direct with me.
Level B are those that I truely talk to on here either directly or thru the discussion threads.
Level C I'm not sure about, but maybe people like Carolyn that are Tribe Staff or Moderators of tribes I belong too.
Level D are (for me) the people I know in RealLife...the BFF thing
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Diana
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  • Re: Levels of Friendship

    Wed, February 4, 2009 - 1:44 PM
    Live Journal has different levels of friendship so you can f-lock a post or super f-lock a post and on MySpace and Live Journal you can even make it so you're the only one who sees it period.
    • Re: Levels of Friendship

      Wed, February 4, 2009 - 3:22 PM
      Exactly!

      It's also the way you can have many groups, and different people associated with different groups. This could extend to Tribe for a variety of functionality that's all tied together:

      Blogs
      Events
      Listings
      PM Groups
      Profile module show settings

      Etc.

      Perhaps a person only needs two groups, maybe some OCD person needs 25. Whatever. Make it open ended and people can use it how they see fit.


      --S
      • Re: Levels of Friendship

        Wed, February 4, 2009 - 3:28 PM
        Yeah, it really does work on LJ. My writerly friends use f-lock and super f-lock function for discussing in detail works in progress that they wouldn't feel comfortable discussing in an open public forum.
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          Re: Levels of Friendship

          Wed, February 4, 2009 - 3:42 PM
          Please explain:

          f-lock

          super f-lock
          • Re: Levels of Friendship

            Wed, February 4, 2009 - 3:48 PM
            f-lock = Friend lock, kind of like our friends only posts.
            Super f-lock are for when you've categorized some people as being better friends than others - smaller group of people, so like friends only, but only a select few.
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              Re: Levels of Friendship

              Wed, February 4, 2009 - 5:51 PM
              Thank you kindly!

              That WOULD be very helpful, and some people have asked for that very thing previously!
          • Re: Levels of Friendship

            Wed, February 4, 2009 - 4:45 PM
            Works like this:

            Public - Everyone
            Friends Only- Standard setting for all friends OR pick a friend group that you define, can be one person or everyone BUT one of your friends.
            Private- Viewable only by the author

            DJ- in teh past I know you have complained that online people arn't real friends. WIth this system you could friend anyone you felt like and then define your own catagories:

            Friends - IRL people
            Online Friends - people that are nice
            Tribe Staff - people that work for tribe
            Bloggers - I like their blogs but their not really friends

            etc etc. Whatever. You define, you decide. Name the group, add to the group. Its unique to you and only you. Its' liek your own private social network within your social network

            Then when you make a blog post or whatever, you get posting options with check boxs to select which groups you would want to be able to view, instead of the current PUBLIC/FRIENDS.

            --S
            • Re: Levels of Friendship

              Wed, February 4, 2009 - 5:28 PM
              Yeah - what he said. That would be very useful.

              As it is now, what you end up doing is making yet one more private tribe or sending PMs as if you were playing post office when you want to keep something to a small set of people and don't necessarily want it to be something discussed with all your friends. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it is rather bulky and time consuming. Being able to control the friend level would be a more elegant solution.
              • Re: Levels of Friendship

                Thu, February 5, 2009 - 12:56 AM
                We were also discussing creating something like personas all within the same profile, where you don't have to create alts (unless you want to) to show yourself differently to your different friend groups.
                ------------
                a per tribe profile might be nice.

                An internal alt farm is frankly a very good idea in my opinion, because it gives people the ability to be anonymous in creative
                ways, and people are more likely to see their account as an investment rather than as a short term betting option.

                If you take the time and energy to set up five alts on one account, having your account cut for misbehavin is suddenly that much more
                annoying.

                Back when i was on Bnet i became infamous as the famous alt guy. I haven't used them since and the only reason i really used them on bnet is that i am unique in that i can claim with a straight face to be christian, atheist, jewish, mormon, essene, gnostic, pagan, wiccan,
                buddhist, taoist, and etc. All at the same time. Most people can't conceive of a conceptual universe large enough to be a real BIG TENT,
                and so they think its a choice between them and that you have to only pick one. Trying to have a conversation with a christian if they figure your a pagan cuz it sez so in your profile puts you at a pretty large disadvantage, they will just assume your satan and discount anything you say from the word go. Similarly, my christian alt isn't going to be popular in the wicca room.

                And don;t even get me started for how they treat my inner atheist.

                The point being, different aspects of personality sometimes demand their own presentation, and sometimes the whole picture is just too
                hard for most people to grasp; esp if they are only really interested in the side of you that reflects their interest.

                I think that the idea of levels of friendship is a great idea, thanks for bringing it up.
                • Re: Levels of Friendship

                  Thu, February 5, 2009 - 4:57 AM
                  I looked at slashdot...


                  I guess a "foes" list would be handy too!
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                    Re: Levels of Friendship

                    Thu, February 5, 2009 - 5:58 AM
                    I see another way to do this that some people are already using.

                    You set up a different tribe for each level and limit membership to each tribe.
                    So I could create:

                    Diana's Friends Tribe
                    Diana's Peers Tribe
                    Diana's Acquaintance Tribe

                    Wouldn't it be cool if you could set up tribe under your profile. What I mean is use the same method and feature as public tribes, but the tribes would be part of your user account.

                    So using an example above:
                    Diana's Peers Tribe ( tribes.tribe.net/dianaspeers ) Becomes Diana - Peers Tribe ( people.tribe.net/littlered...ibes/peers )

                    Since it based on this structure, it's not a public tribe.

                    You have as many levels of friends as you wanted to create.
                    Then you can use the existing powers of tribes/mods to control friend levels. Plus use the feature to create complete Friends (mini)Tribes.
                    • Re: Levels of Friendship

                      Thu, February 5, 2009 - 11:29 AM
                      Diana wrote: ...Wouldn't it be cool if you could set up tribe under your profile.
                      >

                      Yeah, actually. I kinda think that's like facebook, in that when you become someone's friend you automatically have access to their comments section...it's kinda like a tribe, albeit a personalized one. But I think you're envisioning a more formal tribe, with all the bells and whistles. I think it's a great idea.

                      And adding to your idea, instead of automatically including friends in your friend tribe, it could be an opt-in system. So like when you make a new friend there's a checkbox in the friend request to "[x] join Diana's Friends tribe."
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                        Re: Levels of Friendship

                        Thu, February 5, 2009 - 3:33 PM
                        The only problem I see with that is how it will come in the PM system. I can tell now what a friend invitation is and what a tribe invitation is and what is a regular PM, they all come in separately. If they are combined, how will they be labeled? Also, what if you want to be a friend, but not join ANOTHER tribe? Or would like to join the tribe, but not yet accept the friend invitation?

                        It could be a bit uncomfortable if someone sends a friend invitation AND an invitation to a tribe unless you know them fairly well.
                        • Re: Levels of Friendship

                          Thu, February 5, 2009 - 4:28 PM
                          Yeah. What you said.
                          • Re: Levels of Friendship

                            Thu, February 5, 2009 - 8:00 PM
                            well, the question djarum is, how would you like it to sort in the system, or how would you like to experience it in your box?

                            i think that the answer is by creating a new completely different category for combinations but making any combination merely a
                            composite of both pages. thus if you get a tribe+friend invite, it asks you both questions and allows you to answer each independently.
                            • Re: Levels of Friendship

                              Sat, February 7, 2009 - 7:12 AM
                              I think its a good idea but doesnt that take away what is tribe?

                              I mean mostly I like tribe for the open forum based interaction.


                              So lets take myspace for example, the groups really dont do much, its more person to person now.


                              I like the groups on tribe because it allows for you to join a mass tribe. Join in conversations, and so forth.


                              That same concept also open you up to trolling pretty heavily.



                              I think going back to what shatter said, just user defined grouping for friends with user defined permissions would be the best bet.



                              So you have your space and you dictate what friends are what type of friends and whether or not they get to see the nekid pictures of you in your photos.


  • Re: Levels of Friendship

    Sat, February 7, 2009 - 10:25 AM
    What a great idea! Would implement it in a second if I could.
    One thing I've noticed is when one first joins a community, whether it be tribe or friendster or whatever, at first you're met with a flurry of folks 'friending' you and it's always possible some of 'em slip thru the net, so to speak. Then the process of dumping can seem, well, 'unfriendly', yes? This idea could ease the pruning!

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